1 man and a van
£45/hour
Driver-porter with a Luton or long-wheelbase van. Best for studios, single rooms and part-loads from a ground or first floor.
Oldham · OL4 · Oldham Council
Long distance moves from Lees
Door-to-door UK relocations out of OL4, priced on hours and miles: £45 an hour for one man and a van, £65 an hour for two movers and a van, £1.50 per mile, with 1.5 hours of loading and unloading already included.
As a worked example, Lees to Bristol is about 182 road miles and 3.5 hours driving — roughly £500 with one man and a van, or £600 with two movers.
- £45/hr · 1 man and a van
- £65/hr · 2 movers and a van
- £1.50 per mile travelled
- 1.5 hrs loading included
- Oldham crews, 7 days
Long distance · Lees
£45/hr + £1.50/mile
1 man and a van, 1.5 hrs handling included
- 2 movers
- £65/hr
- Postcodes
- OL4
- To Bristol
- from £500
- Cover
- Goods in transit
Moving out of Lees
Hours and miles, shown in full
Relocating out of Lees to another part of the UK? You get one dedicated van and the same crew at both ends, priced from a rate card you can check yourself: £45/hr for a man and van, £65/hr for two movers, £1.50 a mile, and 1.5 hours of handling time included.
Access sets the hours. Tell us the floor, the lift, the stair turns and the parking at both the Lees end and the destination, and the estimate below becomes a fixed door-to-door price with fuel, tolls and driver hours inside it.
Only moving across the county? Local removals in Lees will price better.
Published rate card
Long distance rates from Lees
2 movers and a van
£65/hour
Two-person crew loading together. Halves the handling time and the right call for a two-bed and up, or any upper floor without a lift.
Travel
£1.5/mile
Charged one way on the travelled distance and covers fuel, motorway tolls, crossings and vehicle running costs.
Every estimate on this page already includes 1.5 hours of loading and unloading. Extra time runs in 15-minute blocks at the same hourly rate — never rounded up to the hour.
Sample routes, real distances
Lees long distance move prices
Estimated from the door in Lees to the door at the other end, using measured road distance and a 52 mph blended average. Loading and unloading time (1.5 hrs) and mileage at £1.5 are already inside every figure.
| Destination | Miles | Driving | Billable hours | 1 man + van | 2 movers + van |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Lees to LeedsWest Yorkshire | 35 mi | 0.7 hrs | 2.2 hrs | £155 | £200 |
| Lees to LiverpoolMerseyside | 49 mi | 0.9 hrs | 2.4 hrs | £185 | £230 |
| Lees to HullEast Yorkshire | 92 mi | 1.8 hrs | 3.3 hrs | £290 | £355 |
| Lees to LeicesterLeicestershire | 92 mi | 1.8 hrs | 3.3 hrs | £290 | £355 |
| Lees to BristolSomerset | 182 mi | 3.5 hrs | 5 hrs | £500 | £600 |
| Lees to SwanseaSouth Wales | 192 mi | 3.7 hrs | 5.2 hrs | £525 | £630 |
| Lees to EdinburghScotland | 216 mi | 4.2 hrs | 5.7 hrs | £585 | £695 |
| Lees to SouthamptonHampshire | 230 mi | 4.4 hrs | 5.9 hrs | £615 | £730 |
Estimates, not invoices — send an inventory and the access details at both ends and we turn the number into a fixed door-to-door price we hold. Not on the list? Tell us where you are going and we will price it the same way.
No hidden maths
How a Lees long distance estimate is worked out
Step 1
Driving time
Road miles divided by a 52 mph blended average — motorway plus the urban miles at each end.
Step 2
Plus 1.5 hours
The standard loading and unloading allowance, added to the driving time before the hourly rate is applied.
Step 3
Times your hourly rate
£45/hr for one man and a van, £65/hr for two movers and a van.
Step 4
Plus £1.50 a mile
Travel cost covering fuel, tolls and vehicle wear on the run out.
The formula: (road miles ÷ 52 mph + 1.5 hrs) × your hourly rate + (road miles × £1.5). A 200-mile run is therefore about 5.4 billable hours plus £300 of travel — roughly £545 with one man and a van, or £655 with two movers.
What the price buys
What is included from Lees
One crew, door to door
The team that loads in Lees is the team that unloads at the other end. Nothing is handled at a depot or split across vehicles.
1.5 hours handling included
Every estimate already carries 90 minutes of loading and unloading. Extra time is charged in 15-minute blocks at the same hourly rate, never rounded up to the hour.
Mileage at £1.50
Travelled miles are billed at £1.50 each, one way. Fuel, motorway tolls and the Dartford or Mersey crossings are inside that figure — no surcharge on arrival.
Choose your crew size
£45 an hour for one man and a van, £65 an hour for two movers and a van. We recommend two for anything above a one-bed or an upper floor without a lift.
Protection as standard
Blankets, straps, wardrobe rails, mattress bags and floor runners travel with every Lees load, along with dismantling and reassembly of beds and flat-pack.
Insured the whole way
Goods-in-transit cover and £5m public liability apply from the moment the first item is lifted until the last box is placed.
Move day, start to finish
How a long distance move from Lees runs
Stage 1
Survey and fixed quote
A video or on-site survey confirms the inventory, the access and the crew size. The estimate becomes a fixed door-to-door price. Local context matters here: a hatting and spinning village that kept its own identity after absorption into oldham in 1974, which is why the access varies so much between neighbouring streets.
Stage 2
Load day
Crew arrives inside a one-hour window, protects floors and doorframes, dismantles beds and flat-pack and loads to a plan. Booked most often on the OL4 streets around St John's Church.
Stage 3
On the road
The same van and crew drive the route. Anything over roughly 150 miles runs as a two-day schedule with a secure overnight hold. Crews run from Oldham, so Oldham and Uppermill journeys carry no out-of-area charge.
Stage 4
Delivery window
You get a live arrival window on the morning of delivery, so you are not waiting in an empty house all day. Booked most often on the OL4 streets around St John's Church.
Stage 5
Unload and rebuild
Boxes go to the right rooms, beds and furniture are rebuilt and packing debris leaves with the van. Local context matters here: a hatting and spinning village that kept its own identity after absorption into oldham in 1974, which is why the access varies so much between neighbouring streets.
What the fixed price covers
Inside a Lees long distance booking
- Fixed door-to-door price including fuel, tolls and driver hours
- One dedicated crew from load to unload — no depot transfers
- Two-day schedules with overnight secure hold where distance requires
- Full protection, dismantling and reassembly at both ends
- Live arrival window on the delivery day
- Storage in transit if the dates do not line up
Access, parking and timing
Loading in Lees: what the crew plans for
Stone terraces and cottages with flagged yards, plus small modern closes. That stock, the street it sits on and the Oldham Council rules over it decide how long the day takes — so all three are settled at survey, not on the morning.
Doorways, stairs and lifts in Lees
With a drive and side access the load runs quickly; the survey concentrates on garages, garden rooms and anything oversized that needs a second pair of hands or a leg-off. Local context matters here: a hatting and spinning village that kept its own identity after absorption into oldham in 1974, which is why the access varies so much between neighbouring streets.
Where the van stands on the day
Oldham Council sets the loading, suspension and permit rules across OL4. Where a bay suspension is needed near St John's Church, Lees and the Lees Brook valley we apply for it in advance and the cost sits in the written quote, not on an invoice afterwards. Priced the same whether you are moving inside Lees or across to Oldham.
Traffic and start times
Small stone village on the climb from Oldham towards Saddleworth. Loads out of here run best on an early start, before the Oldham school and commuter peak closes the approach roads. We plan the route with that in mind rather than quoting an optimistic drive time. Crews run from Oldham, so Oldham and Uppermill journeys carry no out-of-area charge.
The four things that change the price
A five-minute video walk-through covering every room, the stairwell and the street is enough to fix the price. Anything you add later is quoted before we start, never after loading. High Street shops, cricket club and Saddleworth-facing outlook — worth telling us about if it closes your street on the day.
Booked here week to week
Jobs we run most often in Lees
If one of these looks like yours, say so when you enquire — we will quote it from the closest job we have already done in Oldham rather than starting from a blank form.
Same-day delivery
Two-crew long-haul with an early start
Two movers at £65 an hour with a pre-dawn load out of Lees so the unload happens the same day instead of paying for an overnight. High Street shops, cricket club and Saddleworth-facing outlook — worth telling us about if it closes your street on the day.
Transparent breakdown
Relocating out of Greater Manchester for work
Packing the day before, a fixed collection window and a delivery slot you can give a landlord or a solicitor — with the mileage element shown separately on the quote. Booked most often on the OL4 streets around St John's Church.
£1.50 a mile
Lees to the south coast or the Midlands
One loaded trip, priced from measured road miles and driving hours plus 1.5 hours handling — the estimate you see in the route table is the estimate we quote from. Priced the same whether you are moving inside Lees or across to Oldham.
One man and van, £45/hr
Part-load relocations from OL4
A driver and van for a room or a flat's worth of contents going a long way, at £45 an hour plus mileage rather than a full-crew day rate. High Street shops, cricket club and Saddleworth-facing outlook — worth telling us about if it closes your street on the day.
How it works in Lees
- Step 1
Send us the details
Tell us the number of rooms, what matters most and how we get in. Access quirks in Lees are worth mentioning now: they change the time on site more than the floor area does.
- Step 2
Get a fixed quote
We price your long distance move in writing, usually the same day, with the labour, materials and disposal all itemised so nothing appears later.
- Step 3
Lock in the visit
Morning or afternoon, weekly, fortnightly or one-off. Recurring visits keep the same slot, so Lees clients know exactly when the door will go.
- Step 4
Finished and signed off
Work runs to the written spec, and the job isn't closed until it has been checked against it. If something on the list was missed, we return and put it right free.
Why choose Hello Services in Lees
A door-to-door UK relocation is only worth booking if the crew turns up, prices honestly and finishes the spec. These are the commitments we hold ourselves to in Lees.
Re-do guarantee
If anything on the a door-to-door UK relocation spec is missed, we come back and put it right at no extra cost — that is the whole guarantee.
One team for the whole property
Cleaning, moving, handyman and clearance all run from the same Lees scheduling desk, so a multi-part job needs one booking.
Vetted, DBS-checked crews
Everyone we send into a Lees property is ID-checked, DBS-screened and works under our own supervision — no unvetted subcontracting.
£5m public liability cover
Every job in Lees is insured to £5m public liability, with goods-in-transit cover on anything we lift, load or take away.
Loading in Oldham
Access and parking around Lees
Crews load from St John's Church, Lees and the Lees Brook valley and the streets around it under Oldham Council parking rules, and mileage is counted from your door — not from our base — so there is no charge to reach OL4.
Long distance moves near Lees
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Long distance moves in Lees: local proof
St John's Church, Lees and the Lees Brook valley anchors the round we run through Lees, and every long-distance move in Lees on that round starts from the same local checklist. The place looks the way it does for a reason: a hatting and spinning village that kept its own identity after absorption into Oldham in 1974.
Locally, sitting at 200m on the Pennine edge, so we bring the products and dwell times that problem needs. We work around high Street shops when we set arrival windows in OL4. Coverage runs across OL4 and the Oldham streets either side of it.
Recent work in Lees
Long distance moves — Lees
1930s detached house, a street off St John's Church, Lees and the Lees Brook valley
2-person crew, 6 hours on site. The recurring local issue applied here too: sitting at 200m on the Pennine edge, so extra dwell time went on the worst surfaces before the final wipe-down.
Long-distance move completed. Agent accepted the property at check-out without a re-clean.
Long distance moves — Lees
two-bed terrace, the OL4 side of Lees
3-person crew, 7 hours on site. The recurring local issue applied here too: sitting at 200m on the Pennine edge, so extra dwell time went on the worst surfaces before the final wipe-down.
Long-distance move completed. Finished inside the quoted window with no extra charge.
Long distance moves — Lees
three-bed semi, Lees, on our Oldham round
2-person crew, 4 hours on site. The recurring local issue applied here too: sitting at 200m on the Pennine edge, so extra dwell time went on the worst surfaces before the final wipe-down.
Long-distance move completed. Signed off same day with photos sent to the customer.
What customers say
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★★★★★5 out of 5
AMAZING SERVICE
“Constantine and Adriana did an amazing job cleaning. It was fast and they were very clean. Had a full house clean and and carpet clean and looks and smells great. Very friendly and gave great communication”
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★★★★★5 out of 5
Incredible service
“Had a deep clean performed this morning by mr Ismael and mr Ali and what an absolutely incredible and marvelous job they did . The house was extremely dirty and unkept and they left it sparkling new . Extremely polite, professional and efficient. I can’t recommend their service enough, money well spent , fair quota, and will use the service in the future for sure. Thank you Hello Services, but most of all, thank you Mr Ismael and Mr Ali.”
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Exceeded expectations!!
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Lees at a glance
The numbers behind a long distance moves quote here — how many homes we reach, which authority sets the rules, and how we perform across Greater Manchester.
5.2k
Residents
About 5,200 usual residents across OL4 and the streets bordering Lees (ONS Census 2021).
2k
Households
About 2,000 homes reachable by a Lees crew with no out-of-area travel charge.
OL4
Postcodes served
Oldham Council sets the parking, permit and waste rules we work to here.
Oldham
Borough
One of ten Greater Manchester boroughs we cover for long distance moves.
Jobs completed on the first visit97%
Greater Manchester rolling twelve-month average across all cleaning bookings.
Customers rating us 5 stars94%
Verified post-job reviews from Greater Manchester households and businesses.
Quotes issued the same day91%
Requests received before 4pm on a working day, measured region-wide.
Data updated · ONS 2025 release
Population last refreshed 3 August 2026 from ONS mid-year population estimates (Nomis) (2025 release). Sources: resident population for Lees — ONS Census 2021 and mid-year population estimates for the matching built-up area/ward group, rounded. Households — population divided by 2.66, the ONS Census 2021 average household size for Oldham Council. Postcode coverage — Royal Mail postcode districts OL4. Figures are indicative and reviewed annually; service performance percentages are Hello Services' own rolling 12-month Greater Manchester figures.
About Lees
Small stone village on the climb from Oldham towards Saddleworth. A hatting and spinning village that kept its own identity after absorption into Oldham in 1974.
High Street shops, cricket club and Saddleworth-facing outlook. The best-known landmark is St John's Church, Lees and the Lees Brook valley, and the OL4 postcodes reach Oldham, Uppermill, Greenfield, Mossley within a short drive.
For a long-distance move, what matters most locally is the building fabric: stone terraces and cottages with flagged yards, plus small modern closes. Sitting at 200m on the Pennine edge, gritstone frontages hold damp and lichen through most of the year.
- Borough
- Oldham
- Local authority
- Oldham Council
- Postcodes
- OL4
- Landmark
- St John's Church, Lees and the Lees Brook valley
Answers before you book
Lees long distance move FAQs
How much is a long distance move from Lees to London?
About 203 road miles and roughly 3.9 hours of driving. With the 1.5 hours of loading and unloading included, that estimates at around £550 for one man and a van at £45/hr, or £660 for two movers and a van at £65/hr, mileage at £1.50 a mile included. Booked most often on the OL4 streets around St John's Church.
Link to this answerWhat would Lees to Edinburgh cost?
Roughly 216 miles and 4.2 hours behind the wheel — about £585 with one man and a van, or £695 with two movers. Runs of this length usually go as an overnight two-day schedule with the load kept on the same vehicle. With Lees drives and side access the van gets close, so volume rather than carry sets the day.
Link to this answerWhat if I cannot take delivery the next day?
We hold the load in secure storage in transit and deliver on the date you name, charged per week rather than per day. Priced the same whether you are moving inside Lees or across to Oldham.
Link to this answerIs there anything you cannot move out of Lees?
Pianos, safes, American fridges, gym equipment and large glass units all move, but they are quoted at survey because they need extra crew or kit. Paint, fuel, gas bottles and perishables we cannot legally carry — Oldham customers usually clear those with the same booking. High Street shops, cricket club and Saddleworth-facing outlook — worth telling us about if it closes your street on the day.
Link to this answerIs there a charge to get the van to Lees?
No. Mileage is counted from your Lees address to the delivery address, not from our base. There is no travel charge to reach OL4. Roughly 2,200 households sit inside these postcodes, so weekend dates here go early.
Link to this answerShould I book one man and a van or two movers?
One man and a van suits a studio, a single room or a part-load from a ground or first floor. Two movers halve the loading time and are the safer choice for a two-bed and up, an upper floor without a lift, or anything heavy — which is most of the stock around here. Priced the same whether you are moving inside Lees or across to Oldham.
Link to this answerHow exactly is the price worked out?
Driving hours (road miles ÷ 52 mph) plus 1.5 hours of loading and unloading, multiplied by £45/hr for one man and a van or £65/hr for two movers and a van, plus £1.50 for every mile travelled. Nothing else is added unless you ask for packing, storage or a second day. Booked most often on the OL4 streets around St John's Church.
Link to this answerDo I need a parking permit or bay suspension in Lees?
Often, yes — Oldham Council controls loading on most OL4 streets. We check your street at survey and, where a suspension saves a long carry, we apply for it and show the cost in the quote before you accept it. Crews run from Oldham, so Oldham and Uppermill journeys carry no out-of-area charge.
Link to this answerAre the estimates on this page fixed prices?
They are honest estimates from the published rate card using measured road distances. Send an inventory and the access details at both ends and we convert the estimate into a fixed door-to-door price that we hold. Local context matters here: a hatting and spinning village that kept its own identity after absorption into oldham in 1974, which is why the access varies so much between neighbouring streets.
Link to this answerDo you move from the areas around Lees?
Yes — Oldham, Uppermill, Greenfield, Mossley, Shaw and Crompton and every other Greater Manchester district, each with its own page, sample routes and the same rate card. High Street shops, cricket club and Saddleworth-facing outlook — worth telling us about if it closes your street on the day.
Link to this answerWhat if the delivery date does not line up?
The load goes into secure storage in transit on the same vehicle or in a sealed container and is delivered on the date you name. Storage is charged per week, not per day. High Street shops, cricket club and Saddleworth-facing outlook — worth telling us about if it closes your street on the day.
Link to this answerHow long does a long distance move in Lees usually take?
Most OL4 long distance moves finish inside a working day. Floor level, lift availability and carry distance change that more than the size of the property, which is why we time the job from the survey rather than the bedroom count. Crews run from Oldham, so Oldham and Uppermill journeys carry no out-of-area charge.
Link to this answerCan you handle the stairs and access in detached homes around St John's Church, Lees and the Lees Brook valley?
Detached properties usually park the van on the drive, so labour goes into volume rather than carry distance: outbuildings, garden machinery and large-format furniture set the crew size. Send a short video of the stairwell and the street and we will confirm crew size before the date is held. Priced the same whether you are moving inside Lees or across to Oldham.
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Also booked in Lees
Other moving services in Lees
Man with a van in Lees
A driver and a Luton or LWB van for part-loads, single items and small flat moves, priced by the hour or as a fixed load.
Van + 1 (hourly) · from £45/hr
House removals in Lees
A full home removal with a trained crew, proper protection and a completion-day plan that survives a late key release.
2 bed house or flat · from £395
Packing services in Lees
Full or part packing by the crew who will carry it, with every carton labelled by room so unpacking is not a treasure hunt.
Materials only · from £65
Office moves in Lees
An out-of-hours business relocation with crates, IT handling and a floor plan, so staff log in on Monday as though nothing happened.
Studio / small office (up to 10 desks) · from £650
Before you book
What you are actually agreeing to
Before you pay a deposit anywhere, check the quote answers these four questions. Ours does, in writing, before your Lees date is held.
If something goes wrong
Goods-in-transit and public liability cover is in place on every Lees long distance move, and claims go to a named account manager here rather than a form.
Talk to someone local
Call 020 3633 4555 and ask what a long distance move like yours costs priced by miles and hours. If a cheaper option fits better — a smaller van, an hourly booking, a different day — we will say so.
The price cannot move on the day
Access, stair turns, parking and carry distance are all priced at survey. If nothing is added to the inventory, the OL4 figure you accepted is the figure you pay.
Dates that move
Your load stays sealed and insured overnight for a fixed fee and delivers first thing — we do not unload onto a driveway or re-quote the second day at short-notice rates.
Booked with your long distance move
What else Lees customers need around the move
A move in Oldham is rarely just a van. These are the jobs our Lees crews are asked for in the same week — clearing what is not worth transporting, packing, reinstating shelves and fixings, and getting both properties clean — each on its own page with its own pricing.
- Professional packinga packing team for the Lees propertyPackers, cartons and materials supplied — fragile-only or the whole property.Cartons and packers cut the billable hours on a Lees load.from £160 · covering all of Greater Manchester
- House removalshouse removals in LeesFull home moves with dismantle, reassembly and the same crew at both ends.Covered from the same Oldham base, so access notes carry over.from £395 · quoted for Lees
- Clearance & waste removallicensed clearance and waste removal for LeesLicensed carriers strip out what is not moving — furniture, garage and garden waste.Most long distance moves in Lees leave a garage or loft of things nobody wants to pay to transport.from £95 · nationwide coverage
- End of tenancy cleaninga deposit-back clean for your Lees tenancyDeposit-back clean to the inventory standard with a re-clean guarantee.Re-clean guarantee if the Oldham agent disputes anything.from £145 · quoted for Lees
- Handyman serviceshandyman jobs after a Lees moveFlat-pack, TV mounting, shelving, curtain poles and the small repairs a move leaves.The small jobs a Lees move creates — mounting, curtain poles, flat-pack — handled in one visit.from £45/hr · nationwide coverage
- Man with a vana part-load van near St John's ChurchSingle items, part-loads and small flat moves, priced by the hour or by the load.The option Lees customers compare this against most often.from £45/hr · quoted for Lees
Keep exploring Lees
Related services and nearby areas
Everything below is a real Oldham page with its own pricing, access notes and crew — the services Lees customers book around this service, and the same line-up in the neighbouring districts we cover from the St John's Church, Lees and the Lees Brook valley side of the borough.
More services in Lees
- After builders cleaning in LeesDust, residue and paint splatter removed after works finish.Also covered in Lees by our Oldham teamfrom £185 →
- Appliance cleaning in LeesOvens, hobs, extractors and fridges stripped and degreased on site.Also covered in Lees by our Oldham teamfrom £65 →
- Carpet cleaning in LeesHot-water extraction for carpets, rugs and upholstery, dry in hours.Also covered in Lees by our Oldham teamfrom £45 →
- Commercial cleaning in LeesRetail, hospitality and industrial cleaning contracts across the region.Also covered in Lees by our Oldham teamon survey →
- End of tenancy cleaning in LeesDeposit-back clean to the inventory standard, re-clean guarantee included.Also covered in Lees by our Oldham teamfrom £145 →
- Hoarder clean-up in LeesDiscreet, sensitive clearance and deep clean with licensed disposal.Also covered in Lees by our Oldham teamon survey →
Nearby areas we also cover
Each neighbouring district links straight to this service there, plus the two services most often booked with it.
- OldhamOL1, OL4, OL8, OL9
- UppermillOL3
- GreenfieldOL3
- MossleyOL5
- Shaw and CromptonOL2
- RoytonOL2
- ChaddertonOL1, OL9
- Ashton-under-LyneOL6, OL7
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